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Showing posts with label Lenny Pickett. Show all posts
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Wednesday, January 25, 2012

Neglected Treasures - Lenny Pickett and the Borneo Horns

(Image by Zak Shelby-Szyszko / Zeal Images)

A couple of months ago, I presented a recording at BYOV that was new to me by a musician who certainly wasn’t. It was an LP by woodwind player extraordinaire and Saturday Night Live bandleader Lenny Pickett called Lenny Pickett and the Borneo Horns (Carthage Records, 7001 (1987)).

Here’s the BYOV in question and the reaction from the crew: BYOV # 5

I had been listening to the record regularly prior to the meeting and the record hasn’t strayed from the turntable since.

The record was intriguing to me for a number of reasons apart from being a fun listen. Though Pickett has been recognized as a tremendous soloist, bandleader and collaborator throughout his varied career, Borneo Horns has stood alone as his only recording as a leader. The record was also a testament to its time, one of much experimentation in instrumental groupings, compositional techniques and genre mixing.

My curiosity was peaked enough that I thought I’d reach out to Mr. Pickett and see if he would give me some background on the recording. He was extremely generous and sent me an astounding amount of information concerning his development as a musician and events that led up to and through the recording. His extended quotes are italicized.

So here we go. Gonna try to shed a little light on a record that should be more well known.

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Some background.

The Early Years

Lenny’s family moved to the Bay Area from New Mexico when he was two years old. His father was stationed at White Sands Proving Ground and worked on the Nike Zeus missile project for the Air Force. The family moved to Berkeley, California after, while Lenny’s father finished his graduate studies.

His first introduction to music was when he started playing clarinet at 9 years of age. Lenny had some group and private lessons in the fourth grade but remained self-taught for the rest of his musical development, except for a handful of lessons on classical clarinet repertoire and flute.

With very rare exceptions, all of my training was extremely informal. It is my belief that most music is learned through self-study. I also believe that we all learn through emulation, so no one is ever completely self-taught. In my case, formal music education just wasn't available, and I worked with what I had.

Pickett’s introduction to the saxophone came at a very turbulent time in his life. His parents split up a few years after they moved to California. Before the 8th grade, Lenny had run away from his father’s home and spent a summer in a juvenile detention center. He was living in a foster home at the beginning of the school year and, while his academic attention waned, his involvement in music became almost all consuming.

A fortunate break came when a sympathetic band teacher, a Miss Magneson, allowed Pickett to borrow and take home one of the school’s tenor saxophones. He was drawn to the sax because of the loud sound that was more suitable for the music that Lenny and his peers were drawn to, namely jazz, rock, blues and R&B.  His playing became a necessity for him.

I practiced like crazy on my own. Outside in the park, in parking garages, down by the bay, up in the hills…. I got chased away and yelled at. My friends got curious about what I was up to. I had quit going to school and socially disappeared for the most part. Eventually my fellow young musicians gathered me up and included me in their bands.

Much of Pickett’s musical education came through hanging with other musicians and picking up useful tidbits from conversations, casual jams, etc. His mother’s second husband was a little known jazz trumpeter named Tommy Warren, whom Pickett was able to spend valuable time with and from whom he learned a great deal about jazz and its history. Another musical acquaintance was saxophonist Bert Wilson, who lived down the street from Pickett.

Wilson’s story should be covered in more detail. He was certainly an inspiring character as he had contracted polio as a young child, discovered jazz at 10 by listening to Charlie Parker and pursued a career in music that led him from the avant-garde scene of Los Angeles to New York (where he recorded with Sonny Simmons and James Zitro for ESP), then back to California.

Bert Wilson
I hung out with Bert a lot. We had 2 or 3 "formal" lessons (nothing was ever that formal with Bert), and then we spent time together. The few saxophone lessons that I had with Bert were my only lessons on that instrument. He was very accepting and welcoming to me, and though we didn't have a rigorous lesson plan, I do consider him to be one of my teachers. 

About Wilson’s “experimental” bent and its effect on his pupil:

I was pretty "experimental" when I met Bert. (Ask him.) Having had no real saxophone lessons, I had figured out a lot of things on my own that weren’t part of the normal saxophone training. Bert was a perfect fit for me. I loved the freedom that Bert espoused and I enjoyed his presence. Bert is a very disciplined musician with a formidable technique. It’s through his massive ability that he can play with the level of freedom that he does. We still keep in touch.


Pickett joined the horn driven, funk group Tower of Power when he was 18 years old. The group toured two thirds of the year. They recorded their own albums and as a for hire horn section on the side, taking up much of the young Pickett’s time. Pickett gives credit to bandleader Emilio “Mimi” Castillo for helping him learn “the craft of recording through working on our album projects.”

The saxophonist’s compositional style sprouted from his experiments in the recording studio. Pickett had learned the rudiments of notation while studying the clarinet but really began composing in earnest in the mid 1970s after purchasing a modular synthesizer and 8-track tape recorder under the advisement of Dr. Patrick Gleeson (of Herbie Hancock’s Mwandishi band fame). The use of these electronic tools allowed Pickett to overdub his own woodwind lines with those of the modular synth, which could provide a vast array of sounds and textures for patient practitioners.

Gleeson with Hancock
Pickett had been interested in the advancements of electric music from musique concrète through the more modern digital synthesizer/programming based compositions, his interest piqued by the use of electronics on popular recordings of groups like the Beatles, Stevie Wonder, etc. His study of tape music and overdubbing would become more and more important in his own musical direction, especially with the inception of the Borneo Horns. 

My acoustic music is often a translation of tape music ideas into the realm of acoustic instruments. I’m interested in fluid interactions between all technologies. Pencils and score paper are examples of older technologies that had a huge impact on how western art music was created. Graphic ideas invaded what was once an entirely aural medium. I have used the direct manipulation of recorded sound and the manipulation of the graphic representation of sound fairly equally.

Pickett grasped the complexities of arranging for multiple horns through his early work with woodwind ensembles (like that of Tower of Power) and his relationships with other musicians.

Writing for wind instruments was never really a problem. My earliest playing experiences were in wind ensembles. I am also, as you may have noted, an annoying interrogator of my fellow musicians. I always try to explore the technique and mechanics of the various instruments that I am around. Over the years, I have accumulated a pretty good knowledge of how they all work. I have read up on the acoustic properties of all the instruments in the orchestra and I have studied their various notational oddities.

New York

After a decade on the road as a member of Tower of Power, Pickett moved with his young family (including an infant son) to New York City in 1981. The move made it possible for him to settle his family in a place where there was a tremendous amount of opportunities for a professional musician.

Kathryn Rae, Pickett’s wife, had lived in New York during the 1970s, performing as a member of Andrew DeGroat’s modern dance company. DeGroat had been the choreographer for the first production of Phillip Glass’s “Einstein on the Beach.” Rae used the contacts from this production along with those stemming from her ties with one time roommate Garrett List, trombonist and booker of famed performance center The Kitchen. These connections proved helpful in Pickett’s professional musical pursuits, including his landing a part in the Saturday Night Live band.

The Borneo Horns
Steve Elson

During the early 1980s, Pickett was involved with David Bowie as an arranger and member of the touring band alongside his old friend and fellow saxophonist Steve Elson. The two had known each other since junior high school and had a deep musical rapport. Bowie was in the midst of recording and touring in support of a handful of dance-oriented records, the most famous being the Nile Rodgers (of Chic fame) produced Let’s Dance. On the 1983 “Serious Moonlight Tour,” Pickett met saxophonist Stan Harrison. The triumvirate became the nucleus of The Borneo Horns. Pickett gives credit to Rodgers and Bowie as catalysts to the group’s inception.

While on tour with Bowie, Pickett began writing music for this small woodwind ensemble. It was convenient to have these two extremely talented musicians at such close proximity. The group gelled quickly and Elson, Harrison and Pickett began to tour as a unit throughout Europe and North America.

Stan Harrison

We also functioned as a horn section on quite a few commercial pop records in the '80s and the early ‘90s. We played a lot together and there is a crazy level of empathy and telepathy between us. We still get together from time to time. We are very good friends.

Added a short while later, the fourth member of the group was Leroy Clouden who Pickett had originally met while touring with Tower of Power but played with after his arrival in New York while sitting in at a jam session at Kenny’s Castaways in Greenwich Village. Pickett: “I thought of him immediately when I had the idea of adding a percussionist to the saxophone trio. His time is awesome.”

The music stemming from the fringes in New York during that time period was all over the map. Curious mixtures of classical, punk, jazz, dance, blues, -- you name it -- were the call of the day. The compositions that Pickett wrote for the Borneo Horns weren’t intended to play to the vanguard of trendy eclecticism; they were natural extensions of his musical personality.

The Borneo Horns
I wasn't conscious of trying to fit into any sort of genre. I was just writing from my imagination of what I would ideally like to hear. I always hope that listeners may have similar interests, but I have no control over that.

I have played in many different situations (circus, rock tours, Broadway, bar bands, street bands, etc.), playing many different styles and genres of music. This is what freelance musicians do. I enjoy a vast array of music and I have been influenced by my own sonic experience of the world in the way that all musicians and composers are.

I enjoy adapting to the various musical circumstances that I find myself in, but when I am making up my own new music, I just ask myself: “What would I like to hear now?”

Though there were some contemporaries working along similar lines during this time, Pickett said that he hadn’t heard either the World Saxophone Quartet or ROVA until well after his work with the Borneo Horns. He wasn’t surprised that similar concepts were being explored at the time, however.

The saxophone lives in a strange world. It's neither fish nor fowl. Not brass yet not quite a woodwind. The saxophone has never been fully embraced by classical music or by the classical orchestra and, outside of the jazz world, the saxophone has a poor reputation. This can sometimes seem confining. It is, however, an amazing instrument with huge possibilities that have only been partially explored. Those groups that you mention are fellow explorers.

The music that the group performed was likened by Downbeat magazine to “sound like collaborations between Bach, King Curtis, Steve Reich and the World Saxophone Quartet.”

The Recording




The Borneo Horns had been performing and touring for a few years before they received the attention of record producer and folk musician Geoff Muldaur. Muldaur had heard a live recording of the group on the Columbia University radio station WKCR and had been excited by the possibility of working with the group. Pickett was put in contact with Muldaur by his good friend trumpeter Peter Ecklund.

Eager about the recording potential of the Boreno Horns, Muldaur pushed the idea to the legendary record producer Joe Boyd.

Geoff got very excited about the project and pushed for it to happen, and got it off the ground before anybody figured out what he was up to. He had a lot to do with the choice of studios and casting the members of the larger ensemble. Geoff and I are still very good friends.

The record would be released on Carthage Records, a subsidiary of Boyd’s Hannibal label. The label was mainly a folk label featuring releases from the Incredible String Band, Richard & Linda Thompson and Fairport Convention. The Borneo Horns recording would be the label’s lone outlier in the world of jazz/modern/whatever.

Pickett was already well acquainted with the co-producer, Hal Wilner. Wilner had established himself as an extremely talented musical producer for recordings, film and live performance. He was also involved in music coordination (“needle drop duties”) at Saturday Night Live, where he met Pickett who was then assisting the former musical director Howard Shore.

Hal is a genius at knowing what is needed from a producer. He always provides no less than what is needed and no more. Perfect. I could not have had better help with my project. He has amazing ears.

Though the resulting Lenny Pickett and the Borneo Horns album was a huge experiment presenting a wide array of sounds and compositional styles, the recording process itself was rather old fashioned.

 We recorded the “Borneo Horns” album old-school-style direct to full-track stereo on a Studer tape deck. There was no possibility of “punching-in” or overdubbing to fix mistakes, but there are some edits here and there. This was the same method that classical records and jazz projects used before multi-track recording was available. Amazingly, the tempo was always rock-solid between successive takes, and the editing was incredibly easy. We recorded the project in this way to minimize tape hiss and avoid the generation loss that happens when multi-track tape is mixed to 2-track. Also, musicians perform differently when they know that they can’t easily replace their mistakes, and the ensemble effort is greatly improved. Paul Wickliffe engineered and Bob Ludwig mastered. It sounds awesome.

The majority of the album was recorded at Skyline Studios in New York City. The tape recordings used on “Solo for Saxophone and Tape” were recorded at Grog Kill Studio in Mt. Tremper, New York by engineer Tom Mark.

The album was released in 1987 on both LP and CD.

The Compositions

Many of the compositions on Lenny Pickett and the Borneo Horns were written for use in performances of David White’s Dance Theater Workshop (DTW) of New York City (now a part of New York Live Arts) or for specific dance festivals/events. Pickett used inspiration from innumerable sources for the creation of these soulful, infectious and rhythmic excursions. He cited these sources as especially integral: “… the Ongo music from Central Africa, the Rising Star Gospel Quartet, Sly and the Family Stone, old blues 78’s…”

All of the “Dance Music for Borneo Horns” selections on the recording were written for the DTW in January 1985. The series has continued to grow to over 40 compositions for the Borneo Horns (#4, #6 and #13 were recorded later on drummer Dennis Chambers album Planet Earth). The compositions that made the album were selected by producer Hal Wilner.

“Dance Music for Borneo Horns #1” was written in a sort of canon with inversions and lot of call and response between the horns. The tune featured Elson on baritone sax, Harrison on alto and Pickett on tenor. Leroy Cloudon held everything in place on trap kit.


The song is a funky, mid-paced and infectious. The music sounds as if it is a blend of New Orleans parade music and Bach chorale. A very interesting exercise on horn ensemble writing with emphasis on rhythmic movement.

The second track was a piece that most directly relates to Pickett’s work with electronics. “Solo for Saxophone and Tape” was also written for use by the DTW and captured the spirit of the 20th Century electronic music that used tape editing as compositional process. The principle sonic material was made up of overdubbed tapes that Pickett recorded at Grog Kill. The tapes included a wide range of woodwinds that were used as the harmonic bed to the track that Pickett recorded on tenor separately at Skyline.


Here’s more info on how Pickett recorded the piece:

I made the piece originally to be performed in a concert. As I remember it now, I created a recording with 7 processed slap tongued clarinets on my 8-track tape recorder, mixed it and transferred it to a ¼-inch half-track stereo tape, made a tape loop, recorded the tape loop back onto 2 tracks of a new 8-track tape, and then added another group of clarinets (double b-flat contra-bass, bass, b-flat and e-flat). I remember that I liked the idea that all of the sounds on the tape portion of the piece were made using stopped cylindrical air columns, and consequently were largely missing any even integer partials.

We remade the piece for the album, and added the flutes when the project got bumped up to 24-track tape. In that instance I used the primitive samplers that were available at the time to remake the "tape loop" on 7 separate tracks. In the spirit of this type of work, we recorded the solo live to 1-inch full-track stereo while we rolled the "tape" (in this case the 24 track master played back through the SSL console), so that the “solo” is first generation audio on the full-track master.

The taped parts were written conventionally, scored on paper and played straight through. The saxophone part was partially notated with a good deal of improvisation added.

“Dance Music for Borneo Horns #2” has the same horn set up as “#1” but includes Roger Squitero on bongos to accentuate Clousen’s traps. Pickett had known Squitero since his days in Berkeley and began to perform with him frequently after his move to New York City with the group Night Flight. The additional percussion gives the tune a certain Latin/Afro-Cuban flare. Harrison’s alto has a particularly moving segment as the lead voice. The ensemble writing is extremely strong on this trickily syncopated composition. This piece was written for performances at Jacob’s Pillow Dance Festival and the Maine Festival in 1986.


Half of the album was dedicated to pieces for a larger ensemble. Pickett had always been good at meeting and inviting new musicians to take part in projects. The additional horn players that were added were tuba virtuoso Howard Johnson, trombonist/tuba player Dave Bargeron and the great trumpet duo of Laurie Frink and Nelson Bogart.

Howard Johnson
I first met Howard Johnson years before through Taj Mahal while Howard was leading the all tuba horn section for Taj. I met Taj Mahal through a mutual friend while he was living in Berkeley. I was probably 16 at the time, and both Howard and Taj were very generous with me, showing me things about their instruments and discussing technique, etc. As it turns out, Geoff Muldaur and Howard Johnson were also friends. Howard is a marvel. Few people play both brass and woodwinds with that kind of authority.

I met Dave Bargeron working in the studios as a session musician, but I also remember subbing in the Gil Evans Big Band while Dave was doing that. Dave subsequently played with me on several other projects of mine. He is one of the most versatile brass players that I’ve ever heard.

I think that I met both Laurie Frink and Nelson Bogart playing in bands on Bleeker Street. Laurie has an amazing range and has become a very important trumpet teacher. Nelson doubles on guitar and is also a music attorney (!).

“Septet #2 for Seven Winds and Percussion” was used as part of the music for Marta Renzi’s “Marriage Between Zones Three and Four” presented by DTW. Pickett wrote the piece using his saxophones, a wind-controlled synth and his 8-track recorder (he was limited to a septet because he needed the last input for the click track). This piece was the second section to a three-part piece.


There are internal sections in each of the three movements in which several musical phrases of differing lengths overlap each other and eventually resolve. This was a fairly common approach among many composers who got their training in classic electronic music studios. It mimics processes (sequencers, tape loops, etc.) that are the normal tools of electronic composition. It’s very easy to do with tape. It was a little bit tricky to learn with the group.

The large ensemble added an additional musician for the two “Dance Suite” pieces on the B-side, guitarist/composer Ned Sublette on banjo. Pickett had chosen the instrumentation for these pieces based on the musicians that were available for the music’s debut performances. Pickett had met Sublette through his wife’s friend Garrett List, as Sublette was frequently featured at the Kitchen. These compositions along with “Landscape” were written in February 1986 for DTW performances.

What about that banjo?

That's actually my banjo. I bought it so that I could get Ned to play it. Ned is a great classical guitarist with many commissioned works created for him. Consequently, he reads "fly shit". (Ned has worn many hats and has in recent years written several important books that focus on the music of the African diaspora.) I knew that he’d do justice to any idiosyncratic writing I came up with. (Ned said some of his notes looked like “upside down telephone poles".)

Ned Sublette
Ned didn't love the banjo. He enjoyed the sound, but banjos are very hard to hold on your lap and it caused him some physical pain. I think the banjo is an amazing instrument. It can sound “ethnic” in a variety of ways, it is loud enough to balance acoustically with wind instruments and percussion, and it can have the same function that the single note rhythm guitar part has in a funk band. The instrument that we used is a 6-string version of the banjo. The 6-string banjo was a staple of early jazz rhythm sections. It was louder than a guitar and it recorded well on the acoustic recording equipment that was around in the 20’s. (Listen to the early Louis Armstrong “Hot Fives”.)

“Dance Suite Section D” was a short piece that featured the large ensemble in a short study that was a part of a larger piece. Listen for that very low BBb tuba and some lovely writing for the horns.


“Dance Music for Borneo Horns #4” was written as a wild imitation of circus music. The horns blow wildly before settling on the quick, jaunty carousel ride melody. Altissimo screams were unleashed in a melee of exuberance. The exceptionally wild lead up to the diminished ending segment proved to be one of the most memorable moments on the album.


“Dance Suite Section 1” contained the most prominent use of banjo and an almost pop like sensibility. The harmonic and rhythmic texture supplied by the banjo was a great addition. This piece most clearly represented the sound that Pickett would have been leaning toward with his arrangements for art-rock group the Talking Heads. Very colorful and esoteric.


The last of the featured series, “Dance Music for Borneo Horns #5” was written specifically for Stephen Petronio’s dance “Number Three.” The slinky, winding tune echoed R&B sentimentality with Pickett’s tenor as the lead vocalist. This composition was used as a feature for all the saxophonists in a solo setting. Elson’s resonant baritone solo and Harrison’s strident alto really gave a wide dynamic variety to the composition. The tempo and feel were a real departure from the majority of pieces on the album, making the piece very poignant.


The final piece on the album “Landscape” brought back the larger ensemble plus banjo. Brass swells and walking tuba bass lines provided a marching band aesthetic.


The piece is built around the melodic fragment that begins the section after the short introduction. It is mostly a development of that short motif. (Eric Richards, a composer friend of mine, has often critiqued my work over the years and he was always encouraging me to develop my music by expanding upon modest materials.)

Much of my music from the time of the Borneo Horns album uses very short phrases that are treated in a variety of ways. Sometimes I would change a rhythmic emphasis or invert a melody or use imitation in another part to sustain a simple idea over a longer period of time

I also often leave some aspect of my compositions open for improvisation. If I remember correctly, the drum parts were largely improvised. Both Roger and Leroy are great improvisers.

Lenny Pickett and the Borneo Horns has remained the only release under Pickett’s name. It was a collection of styles and collaborators that showcased the saxophonist’s eccentric mindset and huge ambition. A record that should be more well-known.

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(Image by Zak Shelby-Szyszko / Zeal Images)
Lenny Pickett has been enmeshed in the fabric of New York music for decades. His ability to enhance any musical setting presented to him yet retaining his unique musical identity has set him apart from other talented musicians. Pickett’s love of learning, teaching and connecting with other musicians has kept him active from projects spanning genre and visibility, from the “Downtown” avant-garde to Cyndi Lauper.

The performance is usually the key to any music’s success. I believe that music can reside in one’s head, and it can be carefully and precisely written down, but until the musicians play it, it doesn't really exist. Fortunately, I have been surrounded by amazing players, and I have had the immense good fortune to encounter generous creative musicians that have freely shared their knowledge with me.

I believe that community is everything. Certainly, without community, music is nothing. I think that the value of community probably applies to everything that is worth pursuing.

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I'd like to sincerely thank Mr. Pickett for taking the time to answer my questions so thoroughly. The detail he provided was extraordinary and really helped me get a handle on this material. Hopefully, the Borneo Horns sophomore record will come out soon. 

Thursday, October 20, 2011

BYOV - Meeting #5

October 16th presented us with another lovely fall day in Brooklyn. For my part, I enjoyed the great outdoors by lugging my trusty turntable and quasi-reliable computer to Barbès for the 5th installment of Bring Your Own Vinyl.


I should really consider renaming it Bring Your Own Digital Music Format, as I was the only vinyl presenter. But no… I will persevere.

How we get down.

We had an interesting slew of themes for this meeting. A couple that provided some real verbal jabs and parries.

Here were our themes:

a) All by myself… Memorable solo performance. One person and his/her art.

b) Getting’ modern. Musical masterpieces from the 1990s and/or 2000s.

c) What’s so special about that? Play and discuss a time-honored favorite you feel is overrated.


Of course, as anyone might imagine, both the modern masterpieces and overrated themes could prove to be contentious. “Modern masterpieces and overrated pieces could be the same category,” quipped Mr. Panken.

1. John Escreet – “Wayne’s World” from Consequences (Posi-Tone 8042, 2009)
Presented by Zak Shelby-Szyszko – Theme: B – MP3





Zak was reluctant to call any recent recording a masterpiece but was happy to bring in a recent recording that he was extremely impressed by.

We heard an angular, very modern piano trio. The pianist’s movement seemed to emerge from a post Andrew Hill sentiment. Good writing and improvising.

Pianist was the leader? Yep.

Matt Shipp? Nope. Craig Taborn? Nuh-uh. Marilyn Crispell? No.

Jason Moran? Nope.

Then came the horns. Hmm…

When did the record come out? About two years ago.

“Is it going to be a headslapper?” I asked. You know, the exasperated slap to the head. Duh!

“Maybe not for the leader. For the rest of the band…”

Then came an alto solo. Ted Panken slapped his head first. “Binney.”

No one was able to guess the leader, so Zak spelled out the band. The pianist/composer was John Escreet, UK raised, NYC based upstart along with an excellent supporting cast: drummer Tyshawn Sorey, trumpeter Ambrose Akinmusire and bassist Matt Brewer. Very nice stuff.

Zak explained that it might be a little presumptuous to call it a masterpiece but he had been very impressed with Escreet’s innate ability to incorporate the more outré musical concepts of the avant-garde without leaving melody behind. Escreet’s balance of out and in really has set the bar high over the past couple years for both piano technicians and composers.

Most dug the composition and stated that they had intended to delve into his music earlier.

2. Randy Weston – “PCN” from Ancient Future (Mutable Music, 2001)
Presented by Eric Benson – Theme: A – MP3





Eric played us a nice piano solo. The pianist took his time, first focusing on the low end of the instrument. A very bluesy solo that definitely swung and highlighted some tinge of modality.

The first guess was Abdullah Ibrahim. “No. He wouldn’t have played those blues based things. It is Randy Weston,” posited Mr. Panken.

Correct.

The recording came from a double CD from Mutable Music. The release contained two solo performances, one a new recording from June 2001 and the other a reissue of Blue (1750 Arch Records, 1983). This track was from the 2001 performance.

There was some discussion of where the earlier recording could have come from. François had thought it might have been a part of the Owl Records catalog. Owl had released a couple of Weston solo records in the 1980s.

3. Bill McHenry – “Art/Omi” from Graphic (Fresh Sound New Talent 056, 1998)
Presented by Simon Jermyn – Theme: B – MP3



This piece was prefaced by Simon: “Maybe not a masterpiece but a piece I like. Nothing flashy…”

The piece featured a quartet of tenor sax, guitar, bass and drums. The performers obviously had a strong rapport. Both sax and guitar were familiar to my ears.

McHenry and Monder. A very resonant pairing that has been successful for over a decade. The bass player had to be Reid Anderson, as he had played on most of Bill’s Quartet recordings. The drummer was the odd man out for me as I only have this group’s recordings with Paul Motian. This drummer definitely was not Motian.

Simon cleared the fog. The drummer was the esteemed Gerald Cleaver.

Futterman: “When has Cleaver ever played at this speed?”

I had mentioned Ben Monder’s immediately recognizable sound and Joel asked me what it was that I heard. Hard to describe Monder’s tone. There’s a very full bodied, warm and charged (more suitable word than electric) sound.

Ted mentioned that he enjoyed the “simple melodies” that McHenry presents. “It is refreshing.”

4. Jerry Gonzalez – “Jackie-ing” from Rumba Para Monk (Sunnyside 1036, 1989)
Presented by Ted Panken – Theme: B – CD




When we finally get the CD playing on the computer (Ted’s a PC man), the group heard a strong percussion segue into a written horn section. Everybody’s feet were moving.

Ted was surprised to have seen François at the meeting. He said that he would have brought something else if he had known. François knew this piece backwards and forwards, of course. My job depended on me knowing this one, so I stayed quiet.

No one else was guessing, though.

Francois to Steve: “You have it.”

“Do I?”

“C’mon! You don’t even have to pay!”

Francois was only too happy to blurt out the leader of the ensemble, Mr. Jerry Gonzalez.

Ted chose this recording because he felt that it was one of the best 10 CDs of the past 25 years. The record had also inspired two generations of Latin/Spanish American musicians as it drew the blueprint of a successful integration of jazz and folkloric music. The record had been name checked by many of today’s jazz/Latin music stars, including Dafnis Prieto, Miguel Zenon and Edward Simon.

“Ray Barretto said Rumba Para Monk is the top,” added Francois.

Steve wondered what Ted thought of Jerry’s trumpet playing. Ted said that while Jerry may not be virtuosic on trumpet, he definitely has great ideas that make his playing stand apart. He also credited Jerry’s global perspective, as he is equally proficient in jazz and Afro-Cuban genres, whether playing trumpet or congas.

Ted also made sure to mention brother/bassist Andy Gonzalez and drummer Steve Berrios whose contributions to the music couldn’t be ignored, especially as prominent members of the Fort Apache Ensemble.

The group also discussed the dialog between these New York raised musicians and Cuban musicians. François mentioned that while Jerry travelled to Cuba, he had been reticent to play with the Cubans, this was the holy land for him and he was paying his respects. Ted was surprised since many of the Cubans that had shown up in the States in the 1980s were so focused on the music of Michael Brecker and Chick Corea that they left most of the folkloric elements to the wayside in favor of musical pyrotechnics.

Ted: “If anyone thinks this is overrated, that’s okay. But I don’t.”

Some technical aspects were cleared up. Jerry did use some overdubbing as he performed both on congas and trumpet. Andy Gonzalez had mentioned to Ted that they had to change the songs to make the clavé work.

Definitely a classic recording in the sphere of Afro-Cuban jazz.

5. Paul Motian Trio – “It Should’ve Happened a Long Time Ago” from TrioIsm (JMT 51412, 1994)
Presented by Steve Futterman – Theme: B – MP3





Joel got Motian’s trio just as soon as Steve got the music playing. Besides the fact that Joel has been extremely familiar with Motian’s music, this group has had an instantly identifiable sound since its inception.

Steve called the Trio a game changer. A group with a musical concept that had never been done before.

But how was it different?

“Swing isn’t present. Their use of space. The non-virtuosic element… Almost like ‘Nefertiti’ (Miles Davis composition). It is all mood.”

Joel queried, “What about the Giuffre Trio from 1961? This idea wasn’t new.”

The famed Giuffre Trio was well known for abandoning the drums with the ensemble of woodwind player Giuffre, pianist Paul Bley and bassist Steve Swallow approaching improvisation from a very introspective, chamber music like angle.

Here Motian had his drums and Bill Frisell’s electric guitar but for the most part this trio was taking off where Giuffre had landed.

Joel: “I pretty much agree with you… It’s fun to argue.”

The Trio was a departure for Motian. Ted pointed out that his earlier trio had been more pulse oriented when he had saxophonist Charles Brackeen and either Jean-François Jenny Clark or David Izenzon on bass.

Zak stated that with the focus on the use of space and mood, this recording sounded like a soundtrack to a film. But he missed the film. Steve made mention of guitarist Ry Cooder’s soundtrack work and how he may have influenced or been influenced by Frisell.

Some thought this music would only work for them when they were in the proper frame of mind or mood. “When the planets align, this music could be transcendental.”

Joel thought that these thoughts were dismissive. “This music doesn’t need anything.” I agreed wholeheartedly, this configuration being one of my favorites regardless of genre.

Joel also made it clear that Motian’s music has melodic purpose of a higher order. He expressed dismay at all these new musicians, especially in the rock and classical/new music canons, that use drones upon drones that have become unbearable to him. “They’ve forgotten what melody is. I blame Steve Reich. And Philip Glass”

6. Meredith d’Ambrosio – “By Myself” from By Myself (Sunnyside, 2012)
Presented by Francois Zalacain – Theme: A – MP3





The piece began with an austere solo piano intro then joined by a female vocalist. We heard some comments that François wasn’t going with the solo theme. He just leaned back and smiled. Obviously, we were listening to a double threat: pianist slash vocalist.

Steve was listening intently. “What is the tune…?” After a moment of brain wracking, Steve got the tune. An Arthur Schwartz and Howard Dietz penned ballad.

Joel commented on the beautiful piano playing. No clue who the performer was.

Was she American or European? “You know the accents better than I do,” replied the wily François.

“C’mon, Ted…”

“Performance anxiety…”

There were no guesses to the artist. François introduced the group to one of his favorite vocalists, Meredith d’Ambrosio, and an upcoming solo recording.

Francois told the story of how he had initially came across Meredith. During the early 1980s, François’s good friend Daniel Richard manned one of the best record stores in France, Le Mondes du Jazz. While visiting, Daniel played François a Japanese import of Meredith’s Lost in His Arms. Francois fell in love and tracked her down. He has released all of her recordings since.

7. Red Mitchell – “I’ll Be Seeing You” from Simple Isn’t Easy (Sunnyside 1016, 1984)
Presented by Francois Zalacain – Theme: A – MP3




The tune is in the first three minutes. The rest is an interview with Mitchell.

François kept the hits coming.

The music began with a trumpet solo over a 1950-ish jazz ensemble. A male vocalist accompanied what the trumpet was doing note by note with a rapid, inventive and mostly comic lyric. Pretty astounding as the syllables fell in with the quick pace of the trumpet.

There were again some complaints that this wasn’t a solo piece. The complaints died down after the vocal fireworks began.

Steve was able to guess that it was trumpeter Tony Fruscella’s trumpet solo on “I’ll Be Seeing You” with bassist Red Mitchell singing his own lyrics along with the solo.

Steve mentioned how much he enjoyed Fruscella’s work because he was a tremendous improviser and particularly this solo because he never touches the head (the song’s melody).

François told the story of where the idea to record this germinated. He had originally seen Red Mitchell perform at the Nice Jazz Festival. As an encore, Mitchell had come out on stage with a tape recorder and placed it near the microphone as he sang along with this recording. It blew everyone away. After moving to New York, François became familiar with Mitchell at Bradley’s and asked him to do a solo recording under the stipulation that he would do this piece. They placed it as a bonus track on the album Simple Isn’t Easy.

This recording also had a story that included my favorite movie director, Stanley Kubrick. Sometime after the release, François received a call from one of Kubrick’s assistants who mentioned that the director had heard this recording on the radio while driving in France. The assistant asked if François would send a copy over, he did. End of story. But hell, it was a personal favor to Stanley Kubrick.

Okay. Here was where the meeting got a little more interesting… A little more controversial.

FYI – None of the statements below are representative of the sentiments of the entire group. We were happy to let the criticism fly. Being that some of the individuals depend upon these musicians’ work for their livelihood, I’ve decided to keep the comments anonymous, unless otherwise noted. Some present decided not to comment on some of the following selections.

Guess you’ll have to come to a meeting to catch everything uncensored.


8. Keith Jarrett Standard Trio – “Four” from My Foolish Heart (ECM, 2007)
Presented by Joel Harrison – Theme: C – CD



“Just throw this one on. The first song. You’ll know it in 10 seconds,” prefaced Joel.

“DeJohnette is the culprit! He’s too busy and the time is poor,” remarked one of our critics. He also guessed the Jarrett Trio with bassist Gary Peacock and drummer Jack DeJohnette.

Joel had decided to pick on Keith Jarrett on the first “overrated” selection.

“When was this? After his illness?”

A while after his illness.

Joel took issue on a number of points. The trio did not sound inspired, they played poorly and, to top it off, Jarrett wrote that this was the greatest achievement of the Trio in the liner notes (he has proclaimed the same in many liner notes before and since).

The fact that Jarrett hadn’t recorded any original compositions since the mid-1980s became a sore point with many former followers. This particular trio had been doing “the same old thing” for years. The lackluster performances don’t deserve the credit enthusiasts give, “or a private jet for that matter.” Some thought the lack of enthusiasm in performance might be due to the fact that the group was playing for a paycheck rather than creating an artistic statement.

Needless to say, there were a number of Jarrett fans present that defended the pianist to the end (namely Ted and François). Nonetheless, no member of the trio escaped unscathed. Here are some anonymous thoughts:

“Peacock is grossly overrated.”

“I know some bass jokes about him. Something to do about walking… I can’t remember them now.”

So why have these guys become icons? Obviously, the Trio’s past output (collectively and individually) has been deemed classic. Their past successes have kept them on their economically advantageous path.

“Like Sonny Rollins… Is he the greatest saxophonist living?”

“When he is on, he can play a lot of saxophone…”

“Okay… But is he really the best right now?”

“Maybe not. But I’ll continue to go to see him. Same with Jarrett.”

Here’s when I cut in with my selection. Totally off topic, naturally.

9. Lenny Pickett – “Solo for Saxophone and Tape” from Lenny Pickett with the Borneo Horns (Carthage Records, 1987)
Presented by Me – Theme: A – LP





I threw on the LP as everyone’s blood pressure was still high.

We heard what seemed to be a woodwind ensemble playing a rather dancing, pointillistic composition with a tenor saxophone feature. It was actually a tenor solo over prerecorded tapes that the player had made using various clarinets.

Joel: “This doesn’t count!”

Me: “Sure it does. Someone asked if the solo could have overdubs at the last meeting. I said sure.”

Joel: “So… If I made a MIDI orchestra with me on top, that would have been cool?”

Me: “Guess so…”

The guesses started adding up. Eddie Harris? Julius Hemphill? David Murray?

First hint: Originally from the West Coast.

Vinny Golia? Bennie Maupin? Arthur Blythe? Is this the Microscopic Septet guys?

Next hint: You can see him live every Saturday night. - Crickets.

Every Saturday night... Live… On television… – Nothing.

I let them off the hook. Lenny Pickett has been the musical director of the Saturday Night Live band since 1995. Prior to that, he had been a member of the legendary Tower of Power funk outfit out of the Bay area and had participated in many of the “downtown” scene’s projects of the 1980s. He had also arranged on recordings by artists as diverse as Elton John, the Talking Heads and Cyndi Lauper. Along with his work at SNL, he has been a part of the music department at NYU for a number of years.

“He sounds like Sanborn there.”

Me: “I thought you guys would get it when he plays his high register and bluesy R&B stuff.”

Joel: “This was barely, barely, before smooth jazz.”

Steve: “He was definitely influenced by the World Saxophone Quartet.”

Joel: “They’re also overrated.”

There the discourse went into saxophonist who might or might not be overrated.

“What about Joe Lovano?”

Ted’s eyes got really big.

François: “No. Lovano isn’t overrated. He might be overexposed.”

Too much of a good thing?

10. Ahmad Jamal – “It’s You or No One” from Ahmad Jamal at the Pershing, Vo. 2 (Argo PS-667, 1961)
Presented by Steve Futterman – Theme: C – MP3





Steve: “Here’s a guy close to Jarrett. I don’t get it. I think he’s boring.”

Then came a fluttery, tuneful piano trio recording.

“Ahmad Jamal isn’t overrated,” came the quick response from Ted. “This may not be his best performance. Put on "Poinciana." He plays a lot of piano on that. (…) He was Miles’ favorite pianist.”

Steve: “What did Miles hear? Space…? Who cares?”

“He heard them live”

Steve: “This is live… I always hear about his orchestral feel on the piano. What does that mean?”

“It is in the arrangement. His attempt to use the entire ensemble and the full piano to orchestrate all the parts that he hears in his head.”

At this point, the speed at which the conversation continued was kind of a blur. Forgive me for not catching it all. Here’s the gist.

“You can’t talk about Jamal without talking about the trio.”

“He’s not taking chances. What’s the twinkly stuff he’s doing?”

“He can play a ton of piano. Listen to the Blackhawk sessions. He plays a ton of piano there.”

Zak: “I think he’s the most distinctive pianist since Monk. He can play with this beauty and then surprise you with these bombs. Maybe not rhythmic bombs, but things that really surprise you. He really mixes it up.”

“His live shows are a circus now. He just plays on autopilot. He just throws random things in.”

“I’m not even listening to this stuff. It is music that I can ignore.”

“Well, why did eight famous pianists show up and sit in the front row at his last gig? Why?”

Steve: “I don’t know. I don’t get it.”

François described the French reception to Jamal. They weren’t very favorable at the outset.

Steve: “I don’t get Oscar Peterson, either.”

“What about Hank Jones?”

“Eh…”

François: “I didn’t know you were French!”

I’ll have to bring a recorder for the next meeting.

11. Noah Preminger – “Where or When” from Before the Rain (Palmetto, 2011)
Presented by Zak Shelby-Szyszko – Theme: B – MP3





Before we adjourned, Zak played another piece by a “young guy that I’m impressed with.”

The piece was a tenor sax and piano duo ballad. The tenor had a well-worn sound that everyone enjoyed hearing.

I guessed that it was Noah along with Frank Kimbrough.

Zak was struck by the performer’s mature sound at such a young age. That’s a big compliment in the jazz world. Ted mentioned that there was a Lovano influence in Noah’s playing and that he also cited Dewey Redman as one of his musical heroes.

Many in the room thought that a player’s ability to play a ballad really was the litmus test to whether they could hang. Trumpeter Roy Hargrove was mentioned as a “youngster” that had the ability to really emote on a ballad.

Ted and François concurred. Roy had a distinct advantage of playing at the legendary Bradley’s in New York. The club was a famous hang for legendary musicians and aficionados. Hargrove would have to play in front of the leading jazz musicians of the day on any given night. This experience hasn’t been duplicated since Bradley’s closing. It had been a huge part of Roy’s development along with many other players of his generation.

Though this concluded the musical aspect of the afternoon, conversation kept up on the development of younger musicians, who of these younger musicians were overrated and why the “jazz police” had kept them in the spotlight.

12. Joe McPhee – “Cosmic Love” from Sound on Sound (Corbett vs. Dempsey, 2011 (late 60s/early 70s)
Presented by Jeff Golick (in absentia) – Theme: A – MP3





Though he couldn’t make it due to familial obligations, Jeff told me that it would be remiss not to have a Joe McPhee solo track thrown in.