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Monday, October 8, 2012

BYOV - Meeting #14



Finally… The end of summer. Away goes the heat. Finally gone away is the period of family vacation and obligations. And (hopefully) the end of the slack attendance at our BYOV meetings.

I really look forward to seeing some of our traveling musicians back in the fold. We’ve certainly missed you.

As you’ve probably guessed, our turnout at BYOV #14 on September 9th was light. We did manage to host our hardcore element and even a new guest.

As always, we heard some very interesting music from a diverse range of artists.

Our manageable themes were:

      a)    What ever happened to…? We want to hear your fav example of a living (or might be living) musician who has mysteriously fallen off the radar.
    
      b)    Hometown heroes. Or not. Let’s hear a musician from your hometown that you feel never got his/her due or was just overhyped.
   
      c)     The right sound for right now. Digging on Tuvan throat singers or bowed saw soloists? Bring an example of your current musical obsession.

            We’re off to the races!

     1.  Hafiz Modirzadeh – “Facet Thirteen” & “Facet Twenty” from Post-Chromodal Out (Pi Recordings, 2012)
Presented by: Paul Bennett – CD – Theme: B






Our newest attendee jumped straight onto the hot seat. Paul was excited to present a hometown favorite of his.

We heard an assortment of wind instruments accompanied by piano that built microtonally into a very rich melodic statement somewhat reminiscent of those of Ornette Coleman or the Bradford/Carter groups, though with a more foreign, folkish sound.

Steve: “Is it one guy playing two horns?”

“No. A trumpet and a sax playing together. There may be some overdubbing.”

Jason: “Ah. This is who I thought it might be.” Jason knew but let us continue working on the puzzle.

Paul told us that the saxophonist was the leader and Jason kept dropping subtle hints.

“This is from that last album?” Yes.

Steve: “Is it a prepared piano?”

Paul: “A retuned piano. You’ll probably know the pianist best.”

Steve: “Blue Gene Tyranny?”

“Sounds like there is a zither.”

Jason: “It is a santur. I believe the recording is supposed to be a suite.”

“Is this a working group?” They’ve been together for the past two or three years but don’t play frequently.

Paul revealed the pianist: Vijay Iyer.

I was then able to guess Amir ElSaffar on trumpet, which gave away the tenor saxophonist as Hafez Modirzadeh.

Paul had attended high school in San Jose, California with Modirzadeh, who is of Iranian descent.

Modirzadeh studied and played with Ornette Coleman, utilizing many of the melodic and harmonic concepts of the master in his own amalgamation of jazz/western improvisation with Middle Eastern musical forms.

Paul had played with Modirzadeh while in school and followed his career, including his professorship at San Francisco State and his amazing self-made career in jazz/improvised music.

Jason was able to identify the santur and said that he was a fan of authentic Middle Eastern music. We listened to “Facet 20,” a composition that featured the santur played by Faraz Minooei.



(Interesting side note: Paul and Robert had met briefly at a gig of bassist Ken Filiano, who also happens to appear on this disc. Robert has studied with Filiano and the bassist had tried to hook Robert and Paul up to play together. Small world. Coming soon: BYOV - the Band.)
  
      2.    Freddie Hubbard – “Cry Me Not” from Hub Cap (Blue Note BLP 4073, 1961)
Presented by: Robert Futterman – LP – Theme: B






Robert inadvertently went out of his way to stump us on this track, as this was supposed to be a hometown hero but was only realized in a round about sort of way.

He began coyly enough: “This isn’t that obscure.”

We heard a fantastically arranged three-horn melody with embellished trumpet sections.

“Is it Wayne Shorter? He was from Newark, right?” No.

“McCoy Tyner?” Nope.

“It’s almost like a Grachan Moncur III tune. That slow tempo…”

Steve: “It sounds like Booker Little. But it isn’t.”

“Is it a Max Roach record? Wasn’t he from Brooklyn?” No. He was from North Carolina.

“Is the trumpet player the leader?” Yes.

“Is he a Brooklynite?” Sort of.

“Lee Morgan?” No.

Paul: “Freddie Hubbard.”

But Hubbard wasn’t from Brooklyn. He was from Indianapolis. He did happen to live in Brooklyn during the 1960s when this was recorded for Blue Note.

Steve: “I can really hear the Booker Little influence here.”

But there was another Brooklyn connection that was a little less obvious.

Steve: “The tune was by Randy Weston.”

“Cry Me Not” was indeed written by the Brooklyn born and raised pianist Weston and arranged by the great trombonist/arranger Melba Liston (of Kansas City). Apparently, this was Hubbard’s favorite track on the record.

This recording featured an amazing group including saxophonist Jimmy Heath (of Philadelphia), trombonist Julian Priester (of Chicago), pianist Cedar Walton (of Dallas), bassist Larry Ridley (also of Indy) and drummer Philly Joe Jones (I bet you could guess where he’s from).

Jason mentioned that saxophonist Cecil Payne was from Brooklyn.

Robert: “Well I guess I could have brought Betty Carter but I didn’t.”

Steve: “Thank you!”

      3.    Llyn Foulkes – “Old L.A.” from Llyn Foulkes and His Machine: Live at the Church of Art
Presented by: Jason Weiss – CD – Theme: C




For his own presentation, Jason brought a recording by an artist that he was invested in, this time for a writing project.

The musician here was known primarily as a visual artist and is soon to have a retrospective exhibit in Los Angeles.

The group heard a kind of bizarrely minimalist, homemade-percussive tune with a twisted vocal, which sounded vaguely familiar.

Paul: “It has a late ‘70s Tom Waits feel.”

Jason: “Don’t mention Waits to him.”

Apparently, Waits wasn’t very supportive of this artist’s work, though they lived and worked in very similar artistic fields and locations.

No one was able to guess who this was.

Llyn Foulkes has been a unique and influential individual in the modern American art scene since the late 1950s. Music was also a huge part of his life as he played drums in a band called City Lights (1965-1971) and his own The Rubber Band (1973-1977).

In 1979, Foukes created “The Machine,” an assortment of junkyard percussion and small instruments that he played as a sort of one-man band. The tune we heard featured Foulkes on his contraption along with his own “Waitsian” vocals.

His music and his art recalled nostalgia for the lost traditions of novelty art, i.e. the one-man band and the postcard (which he used as inspiration for his landscape paintings).

Foulkes has been in Los Angeles since the 1950s and a part of many of the different movements established during these past five decades, though he has always remained an individual. Like his contemporary Robert Rauschenberg, Foulkes most well known work utilized a method of collage painting and mixed media. Many of his images took critical views of the United States and its culture, including mixing dour images with those of pop culture (including Mickey Mouse).

The same “souring of the American dream” can be heard in Foulkes’s lyrics.

We discussed a couple other projects that blended art and music relying heavily on improvisation. One of the most recent and successful was that of guitarist Nels Cline and painter (and Foulkes contemporary) Norton Wisdom. DVDs of their collaboration can be found here.

Foulkes’s retrospective will be held at Kent Fine Arts. The link is here.

      4.    Ramsey McLean / Tony Dagradi – “Swan Song” from The Long View (Prescription No. 4, 1983)
Presented by: Me – LP – Theme: A & C





For my selection, I brought a recording that I had been listening to a bunch (I’ll explain why later) and featured a musician that had faded from the scene.

Steve: “Is that a cello?” Yes. And I’m sorry for the soprano sax feature, Steve.

The meditative cello and sax duet held the listeners in silence for a few moments.

Steve: “Is it Kalaparusha (Maurice McIntyre) and Abdul Wadud?” No. But interesting guess. I nearly brought a Wadud record.

Paul: “There is a hint of (Jan) Garbarek. Is this Surman?” Nope.

Jason: “Are they non-Americans?” They are both Americans.

“Erik Friedlander?” No.

“Still alive?” Both are still alive.

“Dave Holland?” He isn’t American and he hasn’t fallen off anyone’s radar.

I hinted that the cellist was the musician who had disappeared.

Robert: “It sounds like a bassist that switched to the cello.” How astute.

Robert knew from the patterns the string player was playing. More in the supportive role of a bassist than a practiced cellist.

“It isn’t (saxophonist) Courtney Pine is it?” No.

Steve: “The cello is out of tune. No big deal.”

Robert: “Ron Carter used to play the cello out of tune.”

Paul: “This isn’t (Carter’s) style or approach.”

They kept trying to narrow down the saxophonist. It wasn’t Dave Liebman. Not Steve Lacy. And not Sam Newsome.

I introduced the crew to bassist/cellist/songwriter Ramsey McLean and saxophonist Tony Dagradi.

I had found this duet record in New Orleans on my last trip and had been intrigued by the music.

Dagradi would be the most well known of the two players as he had been a member of Carla Bley’s band in the late 1970s, released a handful of records on Gramavision in the 1980s and has been a member of the New Orleans based modern jazz ensemble Astral Project for over 30 years.

McLean was the odd man out. He had also found his way to New Orleans in the late 1970s and made two recordings on Prescription Records, co-owned at the time by drummer Alvin Fielder.

McLean’s claim to fame came as he collaborated on early recordings of Harry Connick, Jr. The bassist had begun writing poetry/lyrics in the 1980s and supplied Connick with some for his early recordings.

Later, Connick would take McLean to court to try to break the 50/50 deal on royalties. Connick would lose.

With some help, I’ve tracked Mr. McLean down and plan to interview him for an upcoming project.

      5.   Louvin Brothers – “Must You Throw Dirt In My Face” from I Don’t Believe You Met My Baby (Hilltop JS-6165, 1976)
Presented by: Steve Futterman – MP3 – Theme: C






Steve: “Here’s something that I’m listening to right now. Well I’ve listened to this forever.”

The harmonically buoyant, mandolin tinged tune brightened up the room.

Jason: “Well this certainly isn’t a hometown hero.”

Steve was blunt and informed us that he doesn’t like most country, though the music here was far from what country has now become. He wasn’t sure that this tune was the most representative of how great a harmony group these guys were.

The Louvin Brothers were an extremely successful country group. Both brothers sang and helped to popularize close harmony, much of their material relating to their Baptist upbringing with warnings against the dangers of sin. Ira played mandolin, while Charlie played guitar.

While the music was in harmony, the relationship between the brothers was not. Apparently, the two hated each other. The group split up in 1963.

Their lives weren’t devoid of sin, either. Ira was accused of beating his wife and died in a car accident 1965 when he had a warrant out for his arrest on a DUI charge.

Charlie went on to have a long career in country and gospel until he passed away in 2011.

Steve thought that the music was very modern for the time, while the addition of mandolin kept the music rooted to the country tradition. His trajectory for the advancement of country music went like this: the Stanley Brothers to the Louvin Brothers to the Everly Brothers.

      6.     Al Haig – “All God’s Chillun Got Rhythm” from Jazz Will-O-The Wisp (Xtra 1125, 1972 (Mar. 13, 1954))
Presented by: Steve Futterman – MP3 – Theme: B






Steve had another.

“This is very brief and very different.  This is a fall-off-the-radar guy who could have potentially been big. He’s almost a hometown guy, too.”

A fleet fingered pianist took off on an uptempo trio excursion.

Steve: “Perhaps he set himself up for disappointment. To do this song after Bud Powell was a mistake. It seems like the same arrangement.”

This recording was by Newark, New Jersey born pianist Al Haig. He had appeared on a variety of recordings by the likes of Charlie Parker and Stan Getz.

Haig disappeared in the 1960s. During that time, he beat the rap of killing his wife. He claimed that his wife was drunk and fell down the stairs but he later admitted that he had strangled her to death. Nice guy, huh?

Haig did mount a comeback in the 1970s

Some were wondering where Haig and Parker crossed paths. Haig was apparently busy in many recording sessions during the 1950s and was most likely available on a call for Parker sides.

Steve: “He knew how to do it (play). From swing to bop.”

We also briefly discussed other pianists that had the touch but were mostly overlooked, including George Shearing. Ornette Coleman was a fan of Shearing, saying that Shearing was a great bebop player.

Can you think of any others? I  am sure there are a ton.

      7.     Tuba Skinny – “Some of These Days” from Garbage Man (Self-Released, 2011)
Presented by: Paul Bennett – CD – Theme: C





For the last selection of the day, Paul wanted to have us listen to a New Orleans based group that he had recently seen pack the house at Barbès.

“They do the trad stuff better than anyone else.”

The band is Tuba Skinny and Paul originally saw them while on a trip to the Big Easy. The band had been busking on Royale while he was walking through the French Quarter.

Paul had followed their itinerary and found that they were playing locally at BYOV’s home base, Barbès. The crowd went nuts for them.

“It was like a mosh pit. You gotta see them.”

The trumpet player was a particular highlight for the group. The trumpeter is Shaye Cohn, who just happens to be Al Cohn’s granddaughter. She was very impressive and showcased more than a passing resemblance in tone to the great Bix Beiderbecke.

The group gave the trad musical tradition a boost in validity because of their youth and enthusiasm. Very good to hear the tradition being kept alive.


Of course, talk went back to Mr. Steve Lacy, who started performing in trad bands. Red Allen had taken him under his wing while the saxophonist was still very young. 

Thursday, October 20, 2011

BYOV - Meeting #5

October 16th presented us with another lovely fall day in Brooklyn. For my part, I enjoyed the great outdoors by lugging my trusty turntable and quasi-reliable computer to Barbès for the 5th installment of Bring Your Own Vinyl.


I should really consider renaming it Bring Your Own Digital Music Format, as I was the only vinyl presenter. But no… I will persevere.

How we get down.

We had an interesting slew of themes for this meeting. A couple that provided some real verbal jabs and parries.

Here were our themes:

a) All by myself… Memorable solo performance. One person and his/her art.

b) Getting’ modern. Musical masterpieces from the 1990s and/or 2000s.

c) What’s so special about that? Play and discuss a time-honored favorite you feel is overrated.


Of course, as anyone might imagine, both the modern masterpieces and overrated themes could prove to be contentious. “Modern masterpieces and overrated pieces could be the same category,” quipped Mr. Panken.

1. John Escreet – “Wayne’s World” from Consequences (Posi-Tone 8042, 2009)
Presented by Zak Shelby-Szyszko – Theme: B – MP3





Zak was reluctant to call any recent recording a masterpiece but was happy to bring in a recent recording that he was extremely impressed by.

We heard an angular, very modern piano trio. The pianist’s movement seemed to emerge from a post Andrew Hill sentiment. Good writing and improvising.

Pianist was the leader? Yep.

Matt Shipp? Nope. Craig Taborn? Nuh-uh. Marilyn Crispell? No.

Jason Moran? Nope.

Then came the horns. Hmm…

When did the record come out? About two years ago.

“Is it going to be a headslapper?” I asked. You know, the exasperated slap to the head. Duh!

“Maybe not for the leader. For the rest of the band…”

Then came an alto solo. Ted Panken slapped his head first. “Binney.”

No one was able to guess the leader, so Zak spelled out the band. The pianist/composer was John Escreet, UK raised, NYC based upstart along with an excellent supporting cast: drummer Tyshawn Sorey, trumpeter Ambrose Akinmusire and bassist Matt Brewer. Very nice stuff.

Zak explained that it might be a little presumptuous to call it a masterpiece but he had been very impressed with Escreet’s innate ability to incorporate the more outré musical concepts of the avant-garde without leaving melody behind. Escreet’s balance of out and in really has set the bar high over the past couple years for both piano technicians and composers.

Most dug the composition and stated that they had intended to delve into his music earlier.

2. Randy Weston – “PCN” from Ancient Future (Mutable Music, 2001)
Presented by Eric Benson – Theme: A – MP3





Eric played us a nice piano solo. The pianist took his time, first focusing on the low end of the instrument. A very bluesy solo that definitely swung and highlighted some tinge of modality.

The first guess was Abdullah Ibrahim. “No. He wouldn’t have played those blues based things. It is Randy Weston,” posited Mr. Panken.

Correct.

The recording came from a double CD from Mutable Music. The release contained two solo performances, one a new recording from June 2001 and the other a reissue of Blue (1750 Arch Records, 1983). This track was from the 2001 performance.

There was some discussion of where the earlier recording could have come from. François had thought it might have been a part of the Owl Records catalog. Owl had released a couple of Weston solo records in the 1980s.

3. Bill McHenry – “Art/Omi” from Graphic (Fresh Sound New Talent 056, 1998)
Presented by Simon Jermyn – Theme: B – MP3



This piece was prefaced by Simon: “Maybe not a masterpiece but a piece I like. Nothing flashy…”

The piece featured a quartet of tenor sax, guitar, bass and drums. The performers obviously had a strong rapport. Both sax and guitar were familiar to my ears.

McHenry and Monder. A very resonant pairing that has been successful for over a decade. The bass player had to be Reid Anderson, as he had played on most of Bill’s Quartet recordings. The drummer was the odd man out for me as I only have this group’s recordings with Paul Motian. This drummer definitely was not Motian.

Simon cleared the fog. The drummer was the esteemed Gerald Cleaver.

Futterman: “When has Cleaver ever played at this speed?”

I had mentioned Ben Monder’s immediately recognizable sound and Joel asked me what it was that I heard. Hard to describe Monder’s tone. There’s a very full bodied, warm and charged (more suitable word than electric) sound.

Ted mentioned that he enjoyed the “simple melodies” that McHenry presents. “It is refreshing.”

4. Jerry Gonzalez – “Jackie-ing” from Rumba Para Monk (Sunnyside 1036, 1989)
Presented by Ted Panken – Theme: B – CD




When we finally get the CD playing on the computer (Ted’s a PC man), the group heard a strong percussion segue into a written horn section. Everybody’s feet were moving.

Ted was surprised to have seen François at the meeting. He said that he would have brought something else if he had known. François knew this piece backwards and forwards, of course. My job depended on me knowing this one, so I stayed quiet.

No one else was guessing, though.

Francois to Steve: “You have it.”

“Do I?”

“C’mon! You don’t even have to pay!”

Francois was only too happy to blurt out the leader of the ensemble, Mr. Jerry Gonzalez.

Ted chose this recording because he felt that it was one of the best 10 CDs of the past 25 years. The record had also inspired two generations of Latin/Spanish American musicians as it drew the blueprint of a successful integration of jazz and folkloric music. The record had been name checked by many of today’s jazz/Latin music stars, including Dafnis Prieto, Miguel Zenon and Edward Simon.

“Ray Barretto said Rumba Para Monk is the top,” added Francois.

Steve wondered what Ted thought of Jerry’s trumpet playing. Ted said that while Jerry may not be virtuosic on trumpet, he definitely has great ideas that make his playing stand apart. He also credited Jerry’s global perspective, as he is equally proficient in jazz and Afro-Cuban genres, whether playing trumpet or congas.

Ted also made sure to mention brother/bassist Andy Gonzalez and drummer Steve Berrios whose contributions to the music couldn’t be ignored, especially as prominent members of the Fort Apache Ensemble.

The group also discussed the dialog between these New York raised musicians and Cuban musicians. François mentioned that while Jerry travelled to Cuba, he had been reticent to play with the Cubans, this was the holy land for him and he was paying his respects. Ted was surprised since many of the Cubans that had shown up in the States in the 1980s were so focused on the music of Michael Brecker and Chick Corea that they left most of the folkloric elements to the wayside in favor of musical pyrotechnics.

Ted: “If anyone thinks this is overrated, that’s okay. But I don’t.”

Some technical aspects were cleared up. Jerry did use some overdubbing as he performed both on congas and trumpet. Andy Gonzalez had mentioned to Ted that they had to change the songs to make the clavé work.

Definitely a classic recording in the sphere of Afro-Cuban jazz.

5. Paul Motian Trio – “It Should’ve Happened a Long Time Ago” from TrioIsm (JMT 51412, 1994)
Presented by Steve Futterman – Theme: B – MP3





Joel got Motian’s trio just as soon as Steve got the music playing. Besides the fact that Joel has been extremely familiar with Motian’s music, this group has had an instantly identifiable sound since its inception.

Steve called the Trio a game changer. A group with a musical concept that had never been done before.

But how was it different?

“Swing isn’t present. Their use of space. The non-virtuosic element… Almost like ‘Nefertiti’ (Miles Davis composition). It is all mood.”

Joel queried, “What about the Giuffre Trio from 1961? This idea wasn’t new.”

The famed Giuffre Trio was well known for abandoning the drums with the ensemble of woodwind player Giuffre, pianist Paul Bley and bassist Steve Swallow approaching improvisation from a very introspective, chamber music like angle.

Here Motian had his drums and Bill Frisell’s electric guitar but for the most part this trio was taking off where Giuffre had landed.

Joel: “I pretty much agree with you… It’s fun to argue.”

The Trio was a departure for Motian. Ted pointed out that his earlier trio had been more pulse oriented when he had saxophonist Charles Brackeen and either Jean-François Jenny Clark or David Izenzon on bass.

Zak stated that with the focus on the use of space and mood, this recording sounded like a soundtrack to a film. But he missed the film. Steve made mention of guitarist Ry Cooder’s soundtrack work and how he may have influenced or been influenced by Frisell.

Some thought this music would only work for them when they were in the proper frame of mind or mood. “When the planets align, this music could be transcendental.”

Joel thought that these thoughts were dismissive. “This music doesn’t need anything.” I agreed wholeheartedly, this configuration being one of my favorites regardless of genre.

Joel also made it clear that Motian’s music has melodic purpose of a higher order. He expressed dismay at all these new musicians, especially in the rock and classical/new music canons, that use drones upon drones that have become unbearable to him. “They’ve forgotten what melody is. I blame Steve Reich. And Philip Glass”

6. Meredith d’Ambrosio – “By Myself” from By Myself (Sunnyside, 2012)
Presented by Francois Zalacain – Theme: A – MP3





The piece began with an austere solo piano intro then joined by a female vocalist. We heard some comments that François wasn’t going with the solo theme. He just leaned back and smiled. Obviously, we were listening to a double threat: pianist slash vocalist.

Steve was listening intently. “What is the tune…?” After a moment of brain wracking, Steve got the tune. An Arthur Schwartz and Howard Dietz penned ballad.

Joel commented on the beautiful piano playing. No clue who the performer was.

Was she American or European? “You know the accents better than I do,” replied the wily François.

“C’mon, Ted…”

“Performance anxiety…”

There were no guesses to the artist. François introduced the group to one of his favorite vocalists, Meredith d’Ambrosio, and an upcoming solo recording.

Francois told the story of how he had initially came across Meredith. During the early 1980s, François’s good friend Daniel Richard manned one of the best record stores in France, Le Mondes du Jazz. While visiting, Daniel played François a Japanese import of Meredith’s Lost in His Arms. Francois fell in love and tracked her down. He has released all of her recordings since.

7. Red Mitchell – “I’ll Be Seeing You” from Simple Isn’t Easy (Sunnyside 1016, 1984)
Presented by Francois Zalacain – Theme: A – MP3




The tune is in the first three minutes. The rest is an interview with Mitchell.

François kept the hits coming.

The music began with a trumpet solo over a 1950-ish jazz ensemble. A male vocalist accompanied what the trumpet was doing note by note with a rapid, inventive and mostly comic lyric. Pretty astounding as the syllables fell in with the quick pace of the trumpet.

There were again some complaints that this wasn’t a solo piece. The complaints died down after the vocal fireworks began.

Steve was able to guess that it was trumpeter Tony Fruscella’s trumpet solo on “I’ll Be Seeing You” with bassist Red Mitchell singing his own lyrics along with the solo.

Steve mentioned how much he enjoyed Fruscella’s work because he was a tremendous improviser and particularly this solo because he never touches the head (the song’s melody).

François told the story of where the idea to record this germinated. He had originally seen Red Mitchell perform at the Nice Jazz Festival. As an encore, Mitchell had come out on stage with a tape recorder and placed it near the microphone as he sang along with this recording. It blew everyone away. After moving to New York, François became familiar with Mitchell at Bradley’s and asked him to do a solo recording under the stipulation that he would do this piece. They placed it as a bonus track on the album Simple Isn’t Easy.

This recording also had a story that included my favorite movie director, Stanley Kubrick. Sometime after the release, François received a call from one of Kubrick’s assistants who mentioned that the director had heard this recording on the radio while driving in France. The assistant asked if François would send a copy over, he did. End of story. But hell, it was a personal favor to Stanley Kubrick.

Okay. Here was where the meeting got a little more interesting… A little more controversial.

FYI – None of the statements below are representative of the sentiments of the entire group. We were happy to let the criticism fly. Being that some of the individuals depend upon these musicians’ work for their livelihood, I’ve decided to keep the comments anonymous, unless otherwise noted. Some present decided not to comment on some of the following selections.

Guess you’ll have to come to a meeting to catch everything uncensored.


8. Keith Jarrett Standard Trio – “Four” from My Foolish Heart (ECM, 2007)
Presented by Joel Harrison – Theme: C – CD



“Just throw this one on. The first song. You’ll know it in 10 seconds,” prefaced Joel.

“DeJohnette is the culprit! He’s too busy and the time is poor,” remarked one of our critics. He also guessed the Jarrett Trio with bassist Gary Peacock and drummer Jack DeJohnette.

Joel had decided to pick on Keith Jarrett on the first “overrated” selection.

“When was this? After his illness?”

A while after his illness.

Joel took issue on a number of points. The trio did not sound inspired, they played poorly and, to top it off, Jarrett wrote that this was the greatest achievement of the Trio in the liner notes (he has proclaimed the same in many liner notes before and since).

The fact that Jarrett hadn’t recorded any original compositions since the mid-1980s became a sore point with many former followers. This particular trio had been doing “the same old thing” for years. The lackluster performances don’t deserve the credit enthusiasts give, “or a private jet for that matter.” Some thought the lack of enthusiasm in performance might be due to the fact that the group was playing for a paycheck rather than creating an artistic statement.

Needless to say, there were a number of Jarrett fans present that defended the pianist to the end (namely Ted and François). Nonetheless, no member of the trio escaped unscathed. Here are some anonymous thoughts:

“Peacock is grossly overrated.”

“I know some bass jokes about him. Something to do about walking… I can’t remember them now.”

So why have these guys become icons? Obviously, the Trio’s past output (collectively and individually) has been deemed classic. Their past successes have kept them on their economically advantageous path.

“Like Sonny Rollins… Is he the greatest saxophonist living?”

“When he is on, he can play a lot of saxophone…”

“Okay… But is he really the best right now?”

“Maybe not. But I’ll continue to go to see him. Same with Jarrett.”

Here’s when I cut in with my selection. Totally off topic, naturally.

9. Lenny Pickett – “Solo for Saxophone and Tape” from Lenny Pickett with the Borneo Horns (Carthage Records, 1987)
Presented by Me – Theme: A – LP





I threw on the LP as everyone’s blood pressure was still high.

We heard what seemed to be a woodwind ensemble playing a rather dancing, pointillistic composition with a tenor saxophone feature. It was actually a tenor solo over prerecorded tapes that the player had made using various clarinets.

Joel: “This doesn’t count!”

Me: “Sure it does. Someone asked if the solo could have overdubs at the last meeting. I said sure.”

Joel: “So… If I made a MIDI orchestra with me on top, that would have been cool?”

Me: “Guess so…”

The guesses started adding up. Eddie Harris? Julius Hemphill? David Murray?

First hint: Originally from the West Coast.

Vinny Golia? Bennie Maupin? Arthur Blythe? Is this the Microscopic Septet guys?

Next hint: You can see him live every Saturday night. - Crickets.

Every Saturday night... Live… On television… – Nothing.

I let them off the hook. Lenny Pickett has been the musical director of the Saturday Night Live band since 1995. Prior to that, he had been a member of the legendary Tower of Power funk outfit out of the Bay area and had participated in many of the “downtown” scene’s projects of the 1980s. He had also arranged on recordings by artists as diverse as Elton John, the Talking Heads and Cyndi Lauper. Along with his work at SNL, he has been a part of the music department at NYU for a number of years.

“He sounds like Sanborn there.”

Me: “I thought you guys would get it when he plays his high register and bluesy R&B stuff.”

Joel: “This was barely, barely, before smooth jazz.”

Steve: “He was definitely influenced by the World Saxophone Quartet.”

Joel: “They’re also overrated.”

There the discourse went into saxophonist who might or might not be overrated.

“What about Joe Lovano?”

Ted’s eyes got really big.

François: “No. Lovano isn’t overrated. He might be overexposed.”

Too much of a good thing?

10. Ahmad Jamal – “It’s You or No One” from Ahmad Jamal at the Pershing, Vo. 2 (Argo PS-667, 1961)
Presented by Steve Futterman – Theme: C – MP3





Steve: “Here’s a guy close to Jarrett. I don’t get it. I think he’s boring.”

Then came a fluttery, tuneful piano trio recording.

“Ahmad Jamal isn’t overrated,” came the quick response from Ted. “This may not be his best performance. Put on "Poinciana." He plays a lot of piano on that. (…) He was Miles’ favorite pianist.”

Steve: “What did Miles hear? Space…? Who cares?”

“He heard them live”

Steve: “This is live… I always hear about his orchestral feel on the piano. What does that mean?”

“It is in the arrangement. His attempt to use the entire ensemble and the full piano to orchestrate all the parts that he hears in his head.”

At this point, the speed at which the conversation continued was kind of a blur. Forgive me for not catching it all. Here’s the gist.

“You can’t talk about Jamal without talking about the trio.”

“He’s not taking chances. What’s the twinkly stuff he’s doing?”

“He can play a ton of piano. Listen to the Blackhawk sessions. He plays a ton of piano there.”

Zak: “I think he’s the most distinctive pianist since Monk. He can play with this beauty and then surprise you with these bombs. Maybe not rhythmic bombs, but things that really surprise you. He really mixes it up.”

“His live shows are a circus now. He just plays on autopilot. He just throws random things in.”

“I’m not even listening to this stuff. It is music that I can ignore.”

“Well, why did eight famous pianists show up and sit in the front row at his last gig? Why?”

Steve: “I don’t know. I don’t get it.”

François described the French reception to Jamal. They weren’t very favorable at the outset.

Steve: “I don’t get Oscar Peterson, either.”

“What about Hank Jones?”

“Eh…”

François: “I didn’t know you were French!”

I’ll have to bring a recorder for the next meeting.

11. Noah Preminger – “Where or When” from Before the Rain (Palmetto, 2011)
Presented by Zak Shelby-Szyszko – Theme: B – MP3





Before we adjourned, Zak played another piece by a “young guy that I’m impressed with.”

The piece was a tenor sax and piano duo ballad. The tenor had a well-worn sound that everyone enjoyed hearing.

I guessed that it was Noah along with Frank Kimbrough.

Zak was struck by the performer’s mature sound at such a young age. That’s a big compliment in the jazz world. Ted mentioned that there was a Lovano influence in Noah’s playing and that he also cited Dewey Redman as one of his musical heroes.

Many in the room thought that a player’s ability to play a ballad really was the litmus test to whether they could hang. Trumpeter Roy Hargrove was mentioned as a “youngster” that had the ability to really emote on a ballad.

Ted and François concurred. Roy had a distinct advantage of playing at the legendary Bradley’s in New York. The club was a famous hang for legendary musicians and aficionados. Hargrove would have to play in front of the leading jazz musicians of the day on any given night. This experience hasn’t been duplicated since Bradley’s closing. It had been a huge part of Roy’s development along with many other players of his generation.

Though this concluded the musical aspect of the afternoon, conversation kept up on the development of younger musicians, who of these younger musicians were overrated and why the “jazz police” had kept them in the spotlight.

12. Joe McPhee – “Cosmic Love” from Sound on Sound (Corbett vs. Dempsey, 2011 (late 60s/early 70s)
Presented by Jeff Golick (in absentia) – Theme: A – MP3





Though he couldn’t make it due to familial obligations, Jeff told me that it would be remiss not to have a Joe McPhee solo track thrown in.